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What Toilet Risers Work with Bidets?
At ManyBidets we get asked all the time how to increase your seated height when installing a Bidet. Today we’re going to talk about just that. My name is Daniel Johnson, I’m your bidet expert and I’m the owner of ManyBidets.com.
Today we’re going to talk about three options. Risers that sit on top of your toilet bowl, that don’t work. Risers that sit on top of your toilet bowl and do work. How to tell the two apart. Then, risers that sit between the floor and the toilet. Now, while there are a lot of toilet risers that don’t work, this is a good example, because it has a couple of different aspects that make it a non-workable solution. Let’s go ahead and install it real quick and we’ll talk about why. This particular riser grips the toilet bowl using clamps. You can see right now I’m tightening those clamps to grip that toilet bowl and make sure that it doesn’t slide around. Now, this is great because it makes for a very secure riser, but you can’t install a Bidet seat on this. Well, why can’t you? Well, if you’ve seen our previous installation videos, you know you have to install a mounting plate onto the toilet. The mounting plate connects to the toilet using the bolt holes in the toilet bowl. Now, because this riser doesn’t use those same bolt holes, there’s no way to connect the mounting plate to the toilet. Thus, there’s no way to slide the Bidet seat into that mounting plate and have it secured to the toilet. The other problem with this particular riser is the fact that it’s not flat on the surface, it’s got curves and and it’s designed to be comfortable to the individual sitting on it, but because it’s not flat on the top, there’s no way to securely rest the Bidet seat on this and have it not wobble, or slip.
This is a riser that will work with a Bidet seat. The key to this riser is that it’s flat along the top and it connects to the toilet using the same bolt holes that the toilet would normally use. Meaning that the mounting plate will fit into place. We simply set the riser on top of the toilet and then we mount the mounting plate on top of the riser. Now, the riser is going to come with some bolts, but we may have to get unique bolts. As you can see here, the bolt and washer combination doesn’t fit into that groove well. You might say to yourself, “Well, let’s just take the washer off.”. Well, now the head of the bolt is too narrow and it actually will slide through that mounting plate, so this is not a good solution either. Now, depending on the Bidet seat that you purchase, this setup might be a little bit different. You might have sliding brackets that go in here. Bolt combinations are going to be a little bit different, depending on the mounting bracket that you have. Regardless of the mounting bracket that you have, there’s a very good chance that you’ll need to take the mounting bracket into a hardware store and get new bolts that meet the criteria to make it work, with your riser. The first thing is, it needs to be a six inch bolt. The second, is that it needs to fill this gap. It needs to go from edge one to edge two, to make sure that it’s gripping both sides of these ridges. The third thing is, you wanna make sure that the head of the bolt itself sits flush, or lower, in the bracket so that it doesn’t catch the Bidet seat while it’s trying to slide in. As an example, with this particular mounting bracket we might get a smaller washer, but if we put this into the mounting plate, while it now sits tightly in that groove, the head of the bolt actually sticks above the mounting bracket. This is a good reason to take the bracket with you when you’re trying to find the right bolt, because if you do, you’ll know that this bolt washer combination is not one that will work. Otherwise, you’ll be taking multiple trips. This bolt, on the other hand, which we also picked up at a local hardware store, fills in that entire groove and also sits below the surface of that mounting bracket. Meaning, this is a good fit. We’re going to go ahead and use this bolt when we’re installing this mounting bracket, to install the Bidet seat here in a moment. Now that we found the proper bolts and, of course when you buy new bolts, if you have to buy a bolt instead of a washer, make sure that you get the appropriate nuts, or wing nuts to put on the bottom of said bolt, so that you’re not dealing with a threading issue. The other thing to notice, wing nuts are probably best in this scenario, as the wing nut makes it easier to spin the nut on the bolt when you’re under the toilet. The bolt is going to go through the mounting bracket, then through the riser, then through the toilet bowl. On the bottom side, if your Bidet seat came with these little cone washers you’ll want to use them. Not all Bidet seats do, so you may not have them, but if you do you’ll want to use them and then use whatever nut you got to go on the bottom of that bolt, as well. Now, as we’re tightening this down we want to make sure that the mounting bracket is the same amount forward on either side. We also want to make sure that the riser is the same amount, for it, on either side. We don’t want to install a Bidet seat on a riser that looks like this. Nor do we want to install a Bidet seat on a mounting bracket that looks like this, because in either of those scenarios we’re not squared to the toilet and if we’re not square to the toilet, we’re going to have some balance issues, when we actually try to use it. For this demonstration, we’re going to install the Cascade 3000 on this riser. It’s one of our favorite pairings of a Bidet seat and a riser. We’re going to slide the Cascade into the mounting bracket here in the back. Any Bidet seat is going to slide into a mounting bracket, but in this scenario we’re using the Cascade. Now that we’ve installed the Cascade, we can loosen the bolts that hold the riser and the Bidet seat onto the toilet. Adjust the position of the riser, adjust the position of the Bidet seat. Once it’s all exactly how we want it, we can tighten it down further, in order to keep it how we want it and make sure that it’s stable when someone needs to use it.
This is another riser that will work with a Bidet seat. Again, flat top and holes in the back where the mounting bracket can be bolted to the toilet bowl and the riser. The difference between this one and the one that we just installed is that it has removable arms, but this one would work just as well as the one that we just installed.
This riser is one of our least used risers, but one of our most recommended. Why do we recommend it? Well, it’s a riser that sits on the floor and allows you to install a toilet on top of it. What’s the beauty of that? Well, first of all it’s going to look better than a riser that sits between the bowl and the Bidet seat itself. Not only that, it’s going to be more stable. What are the downsides? Why don’t more people choose it? Well, it’s more expensive and it requires taking your entire toilet off in order to install this and installing your toilet again on top. It’s a little bit more labor intensive, it’s a little bit more expensive, but it gives you more stability, gives you more class and if you use this, you can still use this riser with it. Both of these are 3 ½”, so if you want 3 ½” additional height on top of your 17” toilet, which is the ballpark of what most toilets are, this will work, or this will work. Say you want 7” additional height, you can add the Toilevator and a riser between the bowl and the seat and gain that 7”. Most bidet seats are going to give you about an 1 ½” to an 1 ¾” seated height addition, from the bowl height. If you’re looking to get an overall height, that’s how you can determine what you’ll be looking at. One other interesting thing to note about the Toilevator is that it will work with Integrated units, so you can install an integrated unit on top of this. Now, some Integrated units, like Neorest, require you to drill into the floor to install them. You can install this Toilevator on the floor and mount the toy elevator to the existing flange and then drill holes into the Toilevator, as if the Toilevator was the floor and install the Neorest, the Studio Lux, any of those Integrated units on top of this. Some plumbers will balk at this and say, “Oh, I’m not sure about it”, but we’ve had a lot of customers do it with success. So, if you want the larger sittable space that an Integrated unit offers, or you want the sleekness that an Integrated unit offers, but you also want the height, this is a great option.
Another option, if you’re not looking to do a riser, but you want a taller seated experience, would be a taller toilet. We often refer people to the Convenient Heights toilet, who makes a 21” high toilet and that’s the bowl height. You can get a tall toilet without having to worry about the stability issues that a riser might cause. On top of this, if you’re really looking for a high seated experience, you could take the Convenient Height toilet and you can put a riser on top of it. There is a lot of flexibility with the different options out there.
If you have any questions on those options please feel free to reach out to us. We’re happy to offer recommendations for what riser might be best to pair with what Bidet seat. Especially based off of whatever needs you might have in that combination. Thank you so much for watching today. Feel free to subscribe to this channel if you want to see our installation video of the Toilevator, when we make it. Thanks again and have a fantastic day.
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00:20 Three Main Riser Options & What Won’t Work
02:02 First Riser Pairing
07:02 Second Riser Pairing
07:22 Third Riser Pairing
09:42 Taller Seated Experience Without a Riser
10:17 Closing Statement